Noah's flood is a story much older than the Bible, and researchers are still learning about its roots.
Did Noah's flood really happen? : Read more
Did Noah's flood really happen? : Read more
We have a good idea where the garden of Eden was located.Another likely scenario for the flood stories is the end of the ice age, which apparently wasn't exactly a peaceful transition. Prehistoric oral tales are hard to decipher in terms of which parts are connected to historical events, and when exactly they occurred. We know the melting ice around 11k BCE flooded many coastal areas when sea levels lifted around 300 ft. But, the data we have in this respect is still sketchy at best. The only way to find more evidence is by combining multiple scientific disciplines, such as archeology, geology, biology, and climate history sciences and draw conclusions from there. For example, there must be good reasons why certain animal species became extinct at the end of the ice age. There also must be reasons why humanity survived that period. Just to figure this out, we need better climate history data. We know the Black Sea levels rose at some point in the past. But we don't know exactly when or why. It's likely the earliest biblical tales originated in the Mesopotamian region. But that’s far from certain. It's an assumption. We have no idea where the Garden of Eden was, or is. Is it a real place, or is it purely mythological? Nobody knows. Most Genesis stories are metaphorical or cautionary tales. Before Abraham surfaced in the OT, there are few, if any, geographical markers that could guide us to a better understanding. Were there even civilizations during the ice age? There had to be something like that because tropical regions remained ice free. No scientist really likes to talk about that era, the pre Neolithic time. Talking about the Neolithic time is hard enough. Anything before then ends up being a series of speculations. We really have no clear picture of prehistoric human history. That puzzle is still being assembled. During the past dozen years, or so, science had to admit that civilization didn't begin with the earliest written records, it began immediately after the ice age, double the time previously assumed. There are just very few things that are certain before writing became popular. We now know humans built temples on a grand scale of some sort immediately following the end of the ice age. Who taught those humans how to do that? Did they wake up one morning after everyone having had the same dream, and they started building monumental temples that require a decent amount of engineering? That knowledge had to originate somewhere. But, where?
seeIn the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Gen 7:11
The authors of this archeological research do not make any claim that this is the ark, however, local villagers' tradition have believed it to be. A massive wooden 2 deck structure under the ice and in a precarious position, could not have been constructed in situ. See: Archeological expedition under the auspices of Turkish authorities by the Dutch.You can't deposit a hypothesis without investigating the whereabouts of the Ark in my opinion.
Humans were likely a major factor in the extinction of megafauna. There is definitely a correlation.For example, there must be good reasons why certain animal species became extinct at the end of the ice age. There also must be reasons why humanity survived that period.
"We now know humans built temples on a grand scale of some sort immediately following the end of the ice age. Who taught those humans how to do that? Did they wake up one morning after everyone having had the same dream, and they started building monumental temples that require a decent amount of engineering? That knowledge had to originate somewhere. But, where?"
Not ancient alien sourced. It has nothing to do with aliens, period. There's no definitive evidence extraterrestrials had anything to do with evolution on earth or the development of civilization as we know it. However, our former view that civilization began simultaneously with the end of the hunter gatherer era is being challenged with early Neolithic structures such as Göbekli Tepe reaching back 11500 years. That site has been excavated for less than 30 years and we still don't really know who built it, why it was built, and what caused it to be abandoned. This is not like the discovery of the city of Troy, or the excavation of the Valley of the Kings, where we knew what we're looking at. We really had zero warning when the age of Göbekli Tepe was established. There are more monuments in that region of Turkey of similar age that haven't been excavated yet. Perhaps more answers will be found. Many hobby scientific researchers claimed for decades that human civilizations predating the Sumerian and Egyptian civilizations existed in various places on earth. Generally, this is turning out to be true, although not necessarily as predicted by the hobbyists. Even the pyramid building boom of Egypt appears to have had a much longer run up phase than previously assumed. All in all, the development of human civilization is much more complicated than previously taught in classrooms. Even the assumption that recorded history began in Sumer is seriously challenged with the discovery of script systems that appear to have been used on columns at Göbekli Tepe. They may not match the complexity of Sumerian scripts, but they indicate that script systems developed over 1000s of years predating agriculture and city building. Therefore, it's not outlandish to assume that there may be more to learn about our ancestors that predates what we know now.Humans were likely a major factor in the extinction of megafauna. There is definitely a correlation.
Ease up on the ancient aliens BS.
There are hypotheses. The extinctions all followed human migration to the continents. A combo of human pressure and climate change is a sensible one."As far as post ice age extinctions go, we have no explanation why creatures like sabretooth tigers and mammoths disappeared somewhere around 12000 years ago."
Avi Loeb did and he made a bundle off of it. He loves to claim martyr status, likening himself to Galileo. You are probably a fan."Then again, do established scientists really want to risk their careers to get involved in a subject like this?"
Thank you for adding useful details.There are hypotheses. The extinctions all followed human migration to the continents. A combo of human pressure and climate change is a sensible one.
Avi Loeb did and he made a bundle off of it. He loves to claim martyr status, likening himself to Galileo. You are probably a fan.
Science and Religion are one. They are both searching for the truth, and both will wind up in the same place. Religion should stop fighting with science, and should compare notes with the scientists. They both will achieve the truth faster.Noah's flood is a story much older than the Bible, and researchers are still learning about its roots.
Did Noah's flood really happen? : Read more
Noah's flood is a story much older than the Bible, and researchers are still learning about its roots.
Did Noah's flood really happen? : Read more