Vikings may not have been blonde, or Scandinavian

Sep 18, 2020
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Researchers analyzed DNA from more than 400 skeletons to understand who the Vikings really were.

Vikings may not have been blonde, or Scandinavian : Read more
Nothing new under the sun in this "new" science. We who are born and have gone to school in Scandinavia have known this all along. When the Vikings traveled they would mix with the people of the countries the arrived in. My DNA is 65% Scandinavian and 35% Irish and Scottish. And I was dark brown. More like the Scots.
 
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No surprise. Another White lie lain to rest.
At least a few may be wondering about the "remains found in a mass grave of 50 headless Vikings in Dorset, U.K."

All those headless bodies found in such a highly civilized place as Dorset? So just who developed the most violent of cultures? No one can recall any commentary such as "The sun never sets on the Viking Empire". Perhaps there was good reason for that, eh?!?

Some might wish to call for an investigation into what looks like an atrocity perpetrated against Vikings in what
appears to be an act of pure vengeance. Perhaps justice had not yet reared its more rational head in such a place as Dorset, U.K.

This does not mean that such injustice cannot now be rectified. One might suspect there could be some grieving relatives of those pitiful Vikings seeking some form of closure for such vicious activities. Time should have no limitations for addressing such heinous acts.

Yet another mystery to be solved on the evolution of "civilization"......
 
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J99

Sep 20, 2020
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No surprise. Another White lie lain to rest.
Since you used a capital letter "W" I'm going to guess that you are possibly implying that because it was thought that some Vikings were blonde (but as has long been known not nearly all were of course), that somehow you believe that people not knowing everything about some Viking DNA, mainly those trading with others around Europe and into parts of Asia had "outside or other" DNA in the mix, is in some way racist? I'm asking because I do seriously want to know, if indeed that is what your meaning here is, how you arrived at that opinion? Do you believe that people generally not knowing that there was some Southern European genetics and/or that of parts of Asia (and I am making an educated guess that it's Western Asia not Eastern peoples, but maybe that could be too, the article didn't say, and as that is how far Vikings went, mostly from Sweden into Rus and founded Kevan Rus. I just don't see how not yet possessing such knowledge constitutes hat you ma be implying. If, however, I have assumed wrong and the capital "W" is simply an overlooked, unintentional error then I apologize. Of course even then even a regular ol' "white lie" is not a "lie" per se if it's simply not knowing a fact. Like another poster after you said. This is not totally new information. No one ever thought they were all blonde lol.
 
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HVB

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Another reminder that we shouldn't confuse genes with culture. Given time, genes move about readily.

Scandinavians who went Viking took slaves, traded, met locals, mingled, befriended, and eventually lived amongst locals across Europe. Gene flow is inevitable even in lieu of a consistent cultural lineage (which itself evolved and blurred).
 
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grieving relatives.......
Actually, it would seem that modern forensics could likely provide some grieving relatives after all. This would require DNA analyses of course, and use the data from the poor victims and compare it to all the peoples of Norway, Sweden etc. and attempt to establish the presence of living relatives. They are very likely out there.

This could usher is a new field of legal activity : Archeological Liability. Since there is no statute of limitations for murder, DNA analysis of the current population of Dorset might even include aspects of their descent, and therefore direct responsibility. Of course this type of legal activity could involve countless slaughters, enslavements, etc., but limited to the extent that DNA can unequivocally establish living descendants.

Your comments regarding any future litigation could be useful.
 
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.....depending on the society, that could lead to selective retiring of persons based on their lineage.
We are highly amused that you brought this back to mind. Not only can we establish likely descendants of the victims of these heinous crimes, but also those of the perpetrators. Simply digging up the bones and dating those to time of these horrible activities, we can extract the DNA from locals living at that time,and match them with locals currently surviving. We can get to the bottom of this if justice is to prevail.
 

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