Hayseed, Please read my post...the one before yours.
While I agree with you on most points, my post above disproves what you are saying.
Addendum
There are cycles, for sure. After volcanic erruptions, there is a cold snap...
Ie the little iceage...
Etc.
Weather is complicated.
I will summarize my post.How's that? What are you talking about?
It is universally accepted by the scientific community (as well as others) that CO2 is rising - The evidence is unquestionable.While not being all knowing, I would add this to the discussion...
The whole CO2 determination hasnt been proven to show a connect beteeen CO2 and temperature....There may be a current rise in CO2, or not, but that may or may not be the cause...
Are you suggesting that locomotives in 1820 are comparible with billions of vehicles, incresed industry and loss of forests n 2020?As a point of determination, please consider...
The CO2 arguement centers around the production of said gas by mechanial combustion. Ie gas/diesel powder engines.
If that were true, the rise in temperatures would have started within the last two hundred years... Yes?
The research is very detailed and shows Doggerland was a casualty of rising sea levels at the end of the ice age combined with land settlement from the weight of glaciers moving...I can disprove that very simply...
Anyone ever hear of 'Doggerland'?
Dont know where it is? Find England. The area between England and Europe, is Doggerland. Six thousand years ago, the area was a fertile plane, which Europeans hunted and lived on. Even today, they are pulling up human made objects and buildings from the sea floor....
Who benefits from the crisis? tin foil companies .... Used to protect people by making into a hat or helmet to protect you and others.The evidence against human causation, is...staggering.
Now ask this...
Who benefits from having a crisis?
Follow the money
Apart from countless scientific papers, or perhaps you are more educated and have more data than anyone else in the world.CO2 rising...maybe. if so, there isnt any answer to causality.
In your world the ice age ended, and immediately all the ice went ... within minutes? hours? seconds?Doggerland:. Wrong, sort of. The ice age ended 12k years ago. Doggerland was still there six thousand years ago.
If you wish to extend the reach of the ice age, to that time, then I put forward to you that the end of the Iceage is still affecting the weather.
How much and where and in your world will all continents rise together as if floating on water from melting glaciers?The melting of the ice is also causing the land to rise.
Please pass on the email of your MIT friend and I will gladly ask them.1820s- You are being closed minded. My point, which you avoided, was that everything was warming...LONG BEFORE THE ADVENT of internal combustion engine.
You view that there is causality there, is not scientific...its emotional or dogmatic.
You of course can believe anything youd like, and post any link to your religous beliefs you like, but the reality is that there isnt any proof...
Shrug.. ask my friends from MIT
Cow farts?I was under the belief that carbon dioxide,, methane and especially water vapor were the drivers of rapid global warming. It seems logical that the exhausts from 1.2 B automobiles would likewise increase these gases and hence contribute to global warming. From the current, somewhat hysterical hype about SUV's, jet aircraft and things like cow farts also contributing to global warming, one has to wonder if some tipping point has not already been reached and the Earth will continue to warm beyond its natural warming cycle. Perhaps the real driver of global warming is too many people and their related lifestyles?
If Dogggerland was a casualty of continental rebound, as you say, shouldnt it be farther above sea level? It is on the same continental plate...It is universally accepted by the scientific community (as well as others) that CO2 is rising - The evidence is unquestionable.
On the CO2 connection with warming-
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On the causal structure between CO2 and global temperature - Scientific Reports
We use a newly developed technique that is based on the information flow concept to investigate the causal structure between the global radiative forcing and the annual global mean surface temperature anomalies (GMTA) since 1850. Our study unambiguously shows one-way causality between the total...www.nature.com
Are you suggesting that locomotives in 1820 are comparible with billions of vehicles, incresed industry and loss of forests n 2020?
The research is very detailed and shows Doggerland was a casualty of rising sea levels at the end of the ice age combined with land settlement from the weight of glaciers moving...
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Doggerland’s lost world shows melting glaciers have drowned lands before, and may again
When scientists from Imperial College released a simulation of a tsunami, triggered by a vast undersea landslide at Storrega off the coast of Norway around 6000 BC, it probably came as a surprise to many…theconversation.com
Who benefits from the crisis? tin foil companies .... Used to protect people by making into a hat or helmet to protect you and others.
YOu have presented no evidence and any evidence presented to you is fake?Roj5
Scientific papers?
Who paid for them to be published?
I can find many scientific papers that over the years, have been proven false.
What narrative have I made? I am asking you for evidence but the typical denier will always spin it around so they never have to demonstrate their position... They read a conspiracy, so therefore it is true and all facts are lies.Another observation you left out, was the fact that the med has villiages at the bottom, the yellow sea, and off the coast of Korea.
I guess you left that out because it doesnt fit your narrative.
Why go for 12k years... Here is an answer you can deny using millions.You still havent answered my query as to the fact that you maintain "human" causality, but refuse to admit the world climate has been changing (heating) for over 12k years...
Come on, answer the question...
Wrong again...There are currently 33 million cows in the US.
Correct.... In the past there were buffalo that typically migrated with land being allowed to naturally recover.150 years ago, there were over 60 million (buffalo)...