Humans faced a 'close call with extinction' nearly a million years ago

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The human population may have lingered at about 1,300 for more than 100,000 years, and that population bottleneck could have fueled the divergence between modern humans, Neanderthals and Denisovans.

Humans faced a 'close call with extinction' nearly a million years ago : Read more

 

[Don Mendo]

A very interesting info, that humans went to a 1'300 individuals bottleneck in Europe, one million years ago, but population genetics points there was an Y Chromosome Adam, and a mtDNA Eve, in Africa, around 300'000 years ago, the Eve being born 30'000 years after Adam.
Who are we (or who are them), where do we come from, where do we go?

 

[Giovani]

The human population may have lingered at about 1,300 for more than 100,000 years, and that population bottleneck could have fueled the divergence between modern humans, Neanderthals and Denisovans.

Humans faced a 'close call with extinction' nearly a million years ago : Read more

Fascinating data. The glitch is that humans haven't been around for 900,000 years.
The insistence of proving humankind evolved as Neanderthal and others did goes on and on without pause, even though it has not been universally accepted or proven beyond a doubt.
That's because we didn't evolve naturally and this throws a wrench into the machinations of those who insist it's true.
Examine closely the evidence and find a fallible aspect interjected in hopes of the holy grail being realized. Try again.

 

[CDKaracter]

So, Mr. Author, answer me this- there's no intermediate species between either neanderthals or denisovans & humans, correct?
Yes, we did some interbreeding with both species, but where did we come from, to do that interbreeding?? Modern humans just suddenly appear in the fossil record around 4-500,000 years ago, looking like absolutely nothing that had come before. In fact, there is not a single human bone in the so-called "pre-human fossil record," & the significant change from the hominins & us would have required not just a missing link, but a missing link with 50 cousins & 5 million years on either side of him in order to explain our existence through the gradual, small changes made through evolution, & many changes like the fusing of our second & third base pairs of DNA that almost certainly could never have happened at all, not in a billion years, as many DNA experts will admit if cornered.
So where did we come from, & why are you referring to these hominins ancestors as "humans," when they most definitely are not?
I'm sorry to throw reality in your face, but why on earth do you operate by basing a great deal of your thinking on that which you already know not to be true.
And BTW- no, I'm not a creationist, & now that I think about it, I'll bet that much of the reason you don't want to admit that you don't know certain things about where humans came from is that you don't want to give any ammunition to the creationists, but that is not a good reason to live a total, blatant lie.

 

[sci-fi-lie]

why are you referring to these hominins ancestors as "humans,"

Unless I've stumbled across false implications, Homo genus == "human" while "modern human" == Homo sapiens.
I don't see any contradictions here. Creationism isn't even considered because it isn't science. See any # of popular science writers for why, I believe including Carl Sagan and Stephen Jay Gould.

 

[Giovani]

So, Mr. Author, answer me this- there's no intermediate species between either neanderthals or denisovans & humans, correct?
Yes, we did some interbreeding with both species, but where did we come from, to do that interbreeding?? Modern humans just suddenly appear in the fossil record around 4-500,000 years ago, looking like absolutely nothing that had come before. In fact, there is not a single human bone in the so-called "pre-human fossil record," & the significant change from the hominins & us would have required not just a missing link, but a missing link with 50 cousins & 5 million years on either side of him in order to explain our existence through the gradual, small changes made through evolution, & many changes like the fusing of our second & third base pairs of DNA that almost certainly could never have happened at all, not in a billion years, as many DNA experts will admit if cornered.
So where did we come from, & why are you referring to these hominins ancestors as "humans," when they most definitely are not?
I'm sorry to throw reality in your face, but why on earth do you operate by basing a great deal of your thinking on that which you already know not to be true.
And BTW- no, I'm not a creationist, & now that I think about it, I'll bet that much of the reason you don't want to admit that you don't know certain things about where humans came from is that you don't want to give any ammunition to the creationists, but that is not a good reason to live a total, blatant lie.

While I think your comments are a bit harsh, there is an agreement overall. I don't consider the human line to be over 85,000 years old.
And yes, we just showed up, not by evolving such as Neanderthal or Denisovans. I'm surprised with the amount of research, which has been enormous concerning this topic, that the obvious hasn't been noted.
Pounding a square peg into a round hole has been ongoing for a hundred years. Fitting human beings into a naturally occurring evolution has been extraordinarily difficult. The entire quandary is puzzling.