Ocean Temperatures Have Reached a Record-Breaking High

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Stop putting the thermometers in Fumeroles and Black Smokers! It's amazing how you can "change" the climate by where you choose to place your thermometers and temperature sensors or what fudge factors you choose to arbitrarily massage the data. Criminal. Absolutely criminal the way science has been downgraded through instant grant seeking behavior.
 
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The article states that "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " - but that doesn't mean the oceans are hotter than before.


For example, if the temperature is 10 and 20 degrees, the average is 15 degrees. If the temperature is 16 degrees the next year, it can be said that it's 1 degree higher than the average of the previous 2 years. But it's actually 4 degrees cooler than the previous year. This is just an example showing that the statement is very difficult to interpret.

For example, perhaps half of the years between 1981 - 2010 are above the average and half are below average.

Also, 2019 data exists, so why take the average only from 1981 - 2010? Why not include up to 2018?

The statement "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " is basically meaningless and suspect. It leaves a lot more questions.

The title of the article "Ocean Temperatures Have Reached a Record-Breaking High" is not supported by the data presented.

The Hiroshima bomb analogy might be meant to bring up images of disaster and fear and not necessary in a scientific paper.

The statements "They compared data taken between 1987 and 2019 with that taken from 1955 to 1986 and found that the oceans warmed 450% more in the more recent time stint than in the earlier bracket, according to the statement. The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s. " also is ambiguous.

For example the "warmed 450% more" could mean an extremely small amount. And "The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s" is not clear. Does it mean the average of the past 10 years versus the averages of all possible 10 year periods since the 1950s? Does it mean that a single year in the past 10 years was the warmest since 1950, could that year have been in 2010 and the oceans are cooler now?

Where are the graphs of the complete data set?
 
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Our planet's oceans are warmer than they've ever been in recorded human history.

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Seriously you should present more facts with the outrageous statements you are making. First a .075 degree raise in ocean temperatures that you cannot possibly measure accurately is very low. You have no idea of what the ocean temperatures were thousands of years ago so making a historical statement like you did is way beyond belief. If you are going to bring in atom bombs as a comparison actually have facts to back it up but in this article there are none!
 
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The article states that "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " - but that doesn't mean the oceans are hotter than before.

For example, if the temperature is 10 and 20 degrees, the average is 15 degrees. If the temperature is 16 degrees the next year, it can be said that it's 1 degree higher than the average of the previous 2 years. But it's actually 4 degrees cooler than the previous year. This is just an example showing that the statement is very difficult to interpret.

For example, perhaps half of the years between 1981 - 2010 are above the average and half are below average.

Also, 2019 data exists, so why take the average only from 1981 - 2010? Why not include up to 2018?

The statement "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " is basically meaningless and suspect. It leaves a lot more questions.


The title of the article "Ocean Temperatures Have Reached a Record-Breaking High" is not supported by the data presented.

The Hiroshima bomb analogy might be meant to bring up images of disaster and fear and not necessary in a scientific paper.

The statements "They compared data taken between 1987 and 2019 with that taken from 1955 to 1986 and found that the oceans warmed 450% more in the more recent time stint than in the earlier bracket, according to the statement. The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s. " also is ambiguous.

For example the "warmed 450% more" could mean an extremely small amount. And "The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s" is not clear. Does it mean the average of the past 10 years versus the averages of all possible 10 year periods since the 1950s? Does it mean that a single year in the past 10 years was the warmest since 1950, could that year have been in 2010 and the oceans are cooler now?

Where are the graphs of the complete data set?
You are making a more reasoned argument than the article did! Thanks.
 
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What an utter load of baloney. This is sensationalism at it's best. To even consider a temperature change as small as this 0.075C is ridiculous. Practically impossible to be accurate. The margin of error is probably 15x greater. This article is a degradation to what real science is. I'm getting sick of this pseudo scientific propaganda!
 
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The article states that "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " - but that doesn't mean the oceans are hotter than before.

For example, if the temperature is 10 and 20 degrees, the average is 15 degrees. If the temperature is 16 degrees the next year, it can be said that it's 1 degree higher than the average of the previous 2 years. But it's actually 4 degrees cooler than the previous year. This is just an example showing that the statement is very difficult to interpret.

For example, perhaps half of the years between 1981 - 2010 are above the average and half are below average.

Also, 2019 data exists, so why take the average only from 1981 - 2010? Why not include up to 2018?

The statement "In 2019, the ocean temperature was about 0.135 degrees Fahrenheit (0.075 degrees Celsius) higher than the average between 1981 and 2010 " is basically meaningless and suspect. It leaves a lot more questions.


The title of the article "Ocean Temperatures Have Reached a Record-Breaking High" is not supported by the data presented.

The Hiroshima bomb analogy might be meant to bring up images of disaster and fear and not necessary in a scientific paper.

The statements "They compared data taken between 1987 and 2019 with that taken from 1955 to 1986 and found that the oceans warmed 450% more in the more recent time stint than in the earlier bracket, according to the statement. The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s. " also is ambiguous.

For example the "warmed 450% more" could mean an extremely small amount. And "The ocean has been the warmest in the past 10 years than it's been since measurements were first taken in the 1950s" is not clear. Does it mean the average of the past 10 years versus the averages of all possible 10 year periods since the 1950s? Does it mean that a single year in the past 10 years was the warmest since 1950, could that year have been in 2010 and the oceans are cooler now?

Where are the graphs of the complete data set?
And most people can't put this together. So the news story is very good propaganda. Thanks for pointing out the facts. This is what we need to do as a public more often. Do our own research and use are own minds and not believe what is told to us my the mainstream and the so called "authorities". Great job!
 

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