- Nov 11, 2019
No, they couldn't. The carriers are still infected, i.e. the virus lives and reproduces in them. It is just not numerous enough to provoke symptoms. But coronaviruses can't live in cold-blooded animals at all."However, some experts have criticized the study, saying it's unclear if coronaviruses can infect snakes." Snakes could still be a carrier even if they aren't infected.
Do you count as main stream news American Journal of Public Health ("Rumors and Realities: Making Sense of HIV/AIDS Conspiracy Narratives and Contemporary Legends"), or a host of other science journals?First it was snakes now it is bats. How about it was created in a laboratory. Scientists can do that you know and they can make new variations of Coronaviruses. That is like when they were saying AIDS came from monkeys when later it was found AIDS was created in a laboratory and spread through a" new type" of Hepatitis vaccine. The mainstream news won't tell you that though. Pushed right under the rug.
Just a quick correction on the creation / spreading of the HIV virus theory. The vaccine was for polio, there are some fascinating papers on this subject if your in for an interesting read.First it was snakes now it is bats. How about it was created in a laboratory. Scientists can do that you know and they can make new variations of Coronaviruses. That is like when they were saying AIDS came from monkeys when later it was found AIDS was created in a laboratory and spread through a" new type" of Hepatitis vaccine. The mainstream news won't tell you that though. Pushed right under the rug.
Welcome sohosaints! I think you have made some good points. Never be afraid to question everything and even what you have been taught. You seem very intelligent. Keep up on researching and keep an open mind. Sometimes what is actually really going on can be hard to believe. But I think you have made a good start in questioning things.Hi - first time I've posted here,
I'm a science student from the UK & have been seeing the whole virus unfold via news,fake news etc - its hard seprating the truth to the resident evil beginnings sci fi also.
Nobody says the truth so I will - not wanting to offend but countries like china have such a odd way of living, from the pollution of mass manufacture to the high end eatries - we know that resturants & supermarkets in china sell animal products to use & eat, I've seen vidoes of even leemas being eaten, bats with the stomaches open filled with food & the truth is they have eaten a speices which is a step too far & its going to bite us all if action isn't taken, I don't think this outbreak will become an epidemic but the next one might.
Before everybody sdays racist, bigot etc, oh the young guy from england is a fool, I'm from a mixed race background myself & part of my background has french & poss spanish in it so that agruement won't wash. My view is liberal of science & life, being a young homosexual male has that effect.
Another thing that has really annoyed me is the fact that - this is a possible epidemic - why WHY hasn't any government thought right lts a must quarentine everybody, stop all flights, all cargos & goods shipping out. I've seen various things about people still travelling to & from china, I saw a report yesterday that a news crew from the UK sent 50 odd staff to cover the story, they came back & did not quarentine themselves at all - I sent them an email asking about this & they refused to answer - what the hell I say it was the BBC & well all know thwey are as baised & dumb as it comes, this example of the stupidity of humans proves my theroey that we will wipe ourselevs out through just plain simple dumbness. Another story I saw from a london news site - a buisinessman came home from China & did not have time to read the articles therefore only qaurentines himself 3 days after coming home - thats enough time to spread a germ to 100's maybe 1'000s of people.
One last theory - how do we know that this virus does not lay dorment - ie say a mobile phone made in china with somebody infected - its shipped & say I buy it 3 months down the line - is that infected???
This whole thing doesn't scare me - I just think its a eqauliser to todays mass over population of our planet & sad but worrying sign that the future is dark for many of us.
OH one last thing - blaming bats snakes etc isn't cool, next we'll blame koalas for the aussie fires, I love bats - also its Valencia cfs embalem - one of my fav soccer clubs is tarnished now.
That is interesting. I just remember reading a long time ago it was Hepatitis but you may be correct it may have been polio also. Maybe a bit of both depending in what area of the world or state.Just a quick correction on the creation / spreading of the HIV virus theory. The vaccine was for polio, there are some fascinating papers on this subject if your in for an interesting read.
In order for a snake to be a carrier, they would need to be infected with the virus. A carrier by definition is an organism that is infected but does not show symptoms. For example, (humans and all other organisms) are infected by many viruses that do not cause us to show any symptoms. We "carry" these viruses in us but they do not cause us to be sick."However, some experts have criticized the study, saying it's unclear if coronaviruses can infect snakes." Snakes could still be a carrier even if they aren't infected.
Why use this inflammatory photo of a bat as clickbait for this otherwise informative article? The quoted scientist clearly states that an as of yet undetermined intermediary animal must have passed the virus from bats to humans. He states this is because no bats were sold at the wildlife market in the epicenter of the outbreak. This photo gives bats an undeserved bad rap.
On the plus side...maybe So-called Wet Markets will be shut down in China
My money is on some guy cut a Bats throat...drank its blood...to be Better in Bed
My idea is merely a recount of a "fictional" movie. Have you watched a movie named " Contagion?" Coincidentally the virus came from bat poop. The dropping fell on a chicken in an open-air kitchen, where a cook was curing a chicken, the cook did not wash his hands with soap and water, he merely wiped his hands on an apron, he later shook a woman's hand, she became infected, and the rest is history, she became the carrier, she had sex with an old boyfriend, they all became carriers. etc. etc.
"unlikely to be fortuitous in nature" means it's all but impossible that it mutated naturally and suggests this was created in a lab. I guess bats gave it to HIV-riddled snakes who then passed it onto Pangolins. *shrugs*The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.