Mysterious 12-sided Roman object found in Belgium may have been used for magical rituals

Jan 27, 2023
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I'd go with a CALTROP used against horses (cavalry/chariots) but the differing hole dimensions do suggest a calculative purpose.
 
Jan 27, 2023
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Search youtube for some lovely people knitting gloves using these dodecahedrons. The different holes are for varying finger sizes, Also they are only found in northerly colder regions of roman empire, where gloves were necessary.
"Knitting with a Roman Dodecahedron"
 

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Jan 27, 2023
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It could be a "massage therapy" device. The holes would allow a "hot" coal or other hot object to radiate while the knobs "rolf" muscles. I expect we will never know for certain but that's my input.
 
Jan 12, 2023
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Nowadays we might say these dodecahedra look like viruses, thanks in part to those projections. (The "head" of a bacteriophage is typically rendered as an icosahedron--& the whole thing resembles a lunar landing craft!)
 
Jan 31, 2023
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As this objet has various sized holes I assume it has been used to check the sice of metal objects. Would be easy to determine what the size of a coin or a metal sphere or some other spherical object is.
 
Feb 1, 2023
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Someone has not been doing their homework. This object was the subject of study a number of years ago. It is not magical and not for knitting. It is a sighting device. The pairs of holes are used for determining distance. Line them up with the smallest closest to the eye and move your arm forward until the sizes of the holes appear to be identical. The distance from the eye is the N in the equation to determining distance. The differing sizes are used for estimating the rough distance before taking a proper sighting.
 
Feb 12, 2023
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When I read Amelia Carolina Sparavigna's paper I was certain she was onto something. I figured calculating the eye distances based on the hole measurements she provided would show they were consistent with a normal arms length, and that would be a nice verification. But I did the calculations and one hole pair on each of the measured dodecahedrons didn't check out. It would need to be held 3-6 meters from the user's eye. We should expect something about 20" or less for a handheld portable device. Wouldn't a reasonable person just use smaller holes? Her theory also doesn't explain the knobs at the corners. She's definitely onto something, but it's not the whole story.

Another concern was that a much simpler device would have performed the same function better.
Consider that a single hole in an ordinary flat disk, and a cord equally divided into equal segments (by knots) would allow estimating ANY arbitrary distance as long as the approximate size of the viewed object is known. This would give a more accurate distance estimate and be much simpler to make.

But it would be possible to improve that simpler device. Fiddling with a measuring cord would be awkward if the user just needs a quick verification that his target is in range. So some means of quickly comparing actual range to a few standards (like the range of his ballista) without the cord would be desirable. The opposing holes of different sizes on the dodecahedron provide that. But it's an extra feature, not the primary function.

But if they want to keep the capability of the more accurate measuring using a cord they would want some means to wrap the cord when not in use.

Also consider that the cord could rot and be broken. If broken it would be difficult to replace in the field (a military campaign) with an accurately divided cord. A way to use an ordinary piece of cord that that somehow measures itself would also be nice.

The dodecahedron addresses these shortcomings of the simpler device. A few hole pairs are provided that can be used for quick range verification checks without a measuring cord. The large and small holes can be used to define the proper holding distance by the method of corresponding edges.

A measuring cord is provided to make arbitrary range estimates accurately. This would use those hole pairs that do not really work for the cordless method. A knotted cord would probably have been a provided initially.

The knobs or balls on the corners provide a convenient means to wind the measuring cord. This can be done without blocking the holes if adjacent knobs are used, the cord always following the dodecahedron edges.

When winding the cord this way it is naturally equally subdivided and self-measuring. Each segment of cord that is unwound is equal to one edge length of the dodecahedron. So a knotted cord is no longer essential. If the original knotted cord is lost or broken an unknotted cord can replace it. The cord would even be somewhat self-marking due to the tendency to discolor where it repeatedly rubbed on the copper alloy knobs. This makes the natural knot spacing for the cord equal to the edge length of the dodecahedron.

To measure range an object of known height (probably a man...an enemy fighter) is viewed through the hole in the dodecahedron. The user would hold the dodecahedron far enough from his eye that the height of the man appears to fill the field of view. The range is then proportional to the eye distance as measured with the cord. The actual distance in stadia or any other Roman units is irrelevant as long as the range of the ballista is known by the same method.

This is for rough range estimates with a portable device, not surveying. There are more accurate methods available when you have access to the down range position.

I think this is a reasonably complete explanation. All the features of the dodecahedron are explained and are consistent with this function.
 
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Feb 24, 2023
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I would like to put forward a new description of the workings of the artifact, please.
The key to the Roman Dodecahedron is perspective.
In 2019 I came to the conclusion that the artifact can be photographed from any direction and would produce a unique silhouette from each and every angle it was photographed.
I found this to be true for the shadow cast by the artifact also.
This 3D form made up of 2D images resembles an unseen radiant star pointing in any and all directions. As a big bang projecting outward or a globe projecting inward.
Its uses could include a space compass used to navigate, map, or plot in 3D space.
Further, the true form I was seeking when I made this discovery was a 3D writing system and to be honest that is also plausible.
I understand that is a lot to fathom but for now, I'm calling it perspective theory by Daniel K Blackwood.
Thank you.
 

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