Monster black holes could be the source of dark energy driving the accelerating expansion of the universe, study suggests

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The expansion of black holes alongside the cosmos could be explained if the cosmic monsters contained dark energy in their cores, the driving force behind the universe's growth.

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[Pentcho Valev]

"As light travels towards us from the distant galaxies, it is stretched over time by the ever expanding space it is travelling through. The longer it travels, the more the wavelengths are increased (reddened)." https://www.wwu.edu/astro101/a101_hubble_redshift.shtml

At the same time Einsteinians teach that space inside galaxies and galactic clusters does not expand at all (they reject the scenario in which expansion does occur but is overcome by gravitational attraction):

"Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."

View: https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356


Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...ont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

So light is stretched as it travels in the space between galactic clusters, then stretching stops as the light enters a cluster, then stretching continues as the light leaves the cluster, etc.

The statement that light is stretched by space expansion, just like Big Brother's 2+2=5, is so preposterous that no rational criticism is possible. The reaction can only be hysterical ("But this is idiotic, don't you see?") and then the critic becomes crank, crackpot, troll, etc.

George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?"

 

[cacarr]

"As light travels towards us from the distant galaxies, it is stretched over time by the ever expanding space it is travelling through. The longer it travels, the more the wavelengths are increased (reddened)." https://www.wwu.edu/astro101/a101_hubble_redshift.shtml

At the same time Einsteinians teach that space inside galaxies and galactic clusters does not expand at all (they reject the scenario in which expansion does occur but is overcome by gravitational attraction):

"Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."

View: https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356


Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...ont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

So light is stretched as it travels in the space between galactic clusters, then stretching stops as the light enters a cluster, then stretching continues as the light leaves the cluster, etc.

The statement that light is stretched by space expansion, just like Big Brother's 2+2=5, is so preposterous that no rational criticism is possible. The reaction can only be hysterical ("But this is idiotic, don't you see?") and then the critic becomes crank, crackpot, troll, etc.

George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?"

This subject has absolutely nothing to do with George Orwell. It has nothing whatsoever to do with human politics or institutions or societies or governments or cultures, or anything like that.

It's a hypothesis that you don't understand at all. I don't understand it myself, but then there are lots of things I don't understand -- and I don't presume that what does or does not seem like "common sense" _to me_ has any relevance regarding hypotheses about some highly technical subject, about which I lack the requisite math background to comprehend.

The universe, at deep, fundamental levels, is not obligated to function in ways that seem correct to one's naive ape brain physics intuitions.

I will say this, though, I'm usually pretty good at understanding things like this in rough, analogical ways, when they are explained cleverly for laypeople -- but so far I haven't found a single article about this story that does a good job of that. Probably because the authors don't understand the story at all either.

 

[bolide2]

So, to be clear, in current cosmology distant objects are thought to be moving away from us at an accelerating pace, and the evidence for this is the redshift of their light. But are they understood to be moving away in space, or moving away with space? Is their apparent motion relative to us merely the effect of space expanding? If the force? making space expand suddenly disappeared, would these objects continue moving away, or would their presumed momentum simply disappear?

And anyway, why would it follow from the expansion of space, whatever that is, that objects in space would be increasingly distant from each other? If two objects are a million miles apart, and the space between them expands, they then seem farther from each other. But does this mean they are more than a million miles apart, or does it mean that the length of a "mile" has increased?

The inflating balloon analogy only works because spots drawn on the balloon are attached to particular locations on the balloon. Are galaxies somehow attached to locations in expanding space?

 

[Rebelo]

Analyzing the expression that allows us to calculate the time on the satellites, we find: The potential energy density varies from location to location. The time at each location varies in inverse proportion to the square root of the respective universal potential energy density. With the universal expansion, the universal density of potential energy decreases and will cause the contraction of time. With universal expansion, there is also a decrease in this same density, which will cause an increase in G. In other words, the universe expands, the energy density decreases, G increases in the inverse proportion, thus allowing the stability of the expanding gravitational fields. With the increase of G due to universal expansion we can say that the part will grow in proportion to the whole. The contraction of time will cause a decrease in the measurement of frequencies received from the universe, thus provoking an apparent acceleration of the universal expansion. There is no need for any dark energy to explain universal expansion.
-The Relativity of the Time with the Universal Density of Potential Energy at Different Stationary Reference Frames
- The Universal Gravitational Variable
See in
www.sciepub.com/portal/search.aspxq=José+Luís+Pereira+Rebelo+Fernandes&sd=&ed=&sub=&journals=&article_types=&sort_by=Most-Views&pg=

 

[gdmellott]

The expansion of black holes alongside the cosmos could be explained if the cosmic monsters contained dark energy in their cores, the driving force behind the universe's growth.

Monster black holes could be the source of dark energy driving the accelerating expansion of the universe, study suggests : Read more

That initial statement makes sense. This one is at least unclear.
[QUOTE
Supermassive black holes could be the engines driving the expansion of the universe, according to research that proposes a solution to "one of the biggest problems in cosmology."
[/QUOTE]

Yes, the extra mass of older massive blackholes does evidence that there is a source for feeding them that is not notable by our visual evidence of what exists in the universe. Whether it is dark energy or dark matter being consumed does not matter. Anyway, it has be stated that the energy ledge that evidenced the existences of the Higgs boson also suggests that there is a lower energy state possible and that we are relating to the level that the Higgs boson exists at. Therein it suggested that the universe could somehow eventually drop off this level and go into state where more energy was being dispersed against that lower-level state being expressed. Well, may the super massive blackholes just be doing that?

 

[Rebelo]

That initial statement makes sense. This one is at least unclear.
[QUOTE
Supermassive black holes could be the engines driving the expansion of the universe, according to research that proposes a solution to "one of the biggest problems in cosmology."

Yes, the extra mass of older massive blackholes does evidence that there is a source for feeding them that is not notable by our visual evidence of what exists in the universe. Whether it is dark energy or dark matter being consumed does not matter. Anyway, it has be stated that the energy ledge that evidenced the existences of the Higgs boson also suggests that there is a lower energy state possible and that we are relating to the level that the Higgs boson exists at. Therein it suggested that the universe could somehow eventually drop off this level and go into state where more energy was being dispersed against that lower-level state being expressed. Well, may the super massive blackholes just be doing that?
[/QUOTE]

I published the website of my articles and as it says that it is not found, I come to correct it.

I said that black energy does not exist and that expansion is not accelerated.

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[Dees4U]

The rotating blackhole is a special case, creating special transformations. The mass within is special and so is its shape. The results are space is transformed in a different manner. Space is nucleated everywhere at once.

 

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