In Italy:
"We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17"
Source:
"Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)"
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Total Deaths reported as SARS-nCoV2 as of 23/02/2020 are 5,476.
So we need to know this: How many people in Italy died each and every day from non-SARS-nCoV2 strains of Influenza?
This data is not available. Does anybody else wonder why that data is not reported? If it is, then please post a link so that we can plot a graph with two lines on it and settle this thing once and for all!
So with the social distancing, and general shutting down of society, and the end of the winter, nobody should be surprised to see the number of deaths reach an asymptote.
The authorities will claim that their social distancing stopped the spread of the virus, but how could they possibly know unless they release the daily deaths from non-SARS-nCov2 Influenza and Pneumonia alongside the onces they claim are caused by SARS-nCov2?
People need to start pressing for these numbers. The authorities are asking for a huge sacrifice from us, and a huge amount of power for them, so we have every right to insist that the onus is on them to over prove their case and to address all questions.
It is true that the study is for excess mortality and assumes that the cause of the excess was influenza. But, we are in a different regime now. Now every single dead body's lungs can and should be lab tested for a fatal viral load and the virus that caused the death in that person needs to be recorded. No more "excess deaths". That is not good enough anymore, since the authorities want all of this power, they need to explain themselves - not us explain ourselves.
"We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17"
Source:
"Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)"
Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)
In recent years, Italy has been registering peaks in death rates, particularly among the elderly during the winter season. Influenza epidemics have be…
Total Deaths reported as SARS-nCoV2 as of 23/02/2020 are 5,476.
So we need to know this: How many people in Italy died each and every day from non-SARS-nCoV2 strains of Influenza?
This data is not available. Does anybody else wonder why that data is not reported? If it is, then please post a link so that we can plot a graph with two lines on it and settle this thing once and for all!
So with the social distancing, and general shutting down of society, and the end of the winter, nobody should be surprised to see the number of deaths reach an asymptote.
The authorities will claim that their social distancing stopped the spread of the virus, but how could they possibly know unless they release the daily deaths from non-SARS-nCov2 Influenza and Pneumonia alongside the onces they claim are caused by SARS-nCov2?
People need to start pressing for these numbers. The authorities are asking for a huge sacrifice from us, and a huge amount of power for them, so we have every right to insist that the onus is on them to over prove their case and to address all questions.
It is true that the study is for excess mortality and assumes that the cause of the excess was influenza. But, we are in a different regime now. Now every single dead body's lungs can and should be lab tested for a fatal viral load and the virus that caused the death in that person needs to be recorded. No more "excess deaths". That is not good enough anymore, since the authorities want all of this power, they need to explain themselves - not us explain ourselves.
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