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[Chem721]

If one is young and well-to-do, and wants to buy sea-shore property for their home, they should certainly consider the surrounding terrain if they want to keep their home from getting submerged in the coming years. Buying inland a few miles or so would certainly be preferred, assuming the ground rises a substantial amount from current sea levels.

Like all real estate, it is location, location, location. But this "location" is going to take on a very different meaning in the years ahead, particularly considering rising sea levels.

It has been projected that the Greenland ice sheet is in an irreversible melt-down (1). If it completely melts, it will add about 20-25 feet to existing sea levels (2). And of course the rate of its melting is increasing.

Quoting from the NASA link (2):

"The findings, which forecast an approximate 3 to 5 inches (70 to 130 millimeters) of global sea level rise by 2100, are in alignment with previous worst-case projections if the average rate of Greenland's ice loss continues." (emphasis mine)

And it goes on to note:

"As glaciers and ice sheets melt, they add more water to the ocean. Increasing rates of global warming have accelerated Greenland's ice mass loss from 25 billion tons per year in the 1990s to a current average of 234 billion tons per year. "

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These results indicate the rate of melting in roughly the last 25 years has increased by an order of magnitude (10x). There is every reason to believe the rate of sea level rise from Greenland alone will increase substantially in the coming years. And then there is the melting ice sheets of Antarctica. Their complete conversion into water will raise sea levels an estimated 200 feet (3). This will have a significant impact on future property values (at least for those not yet submerged). It might be best to worry more about location than who the neighbors will be!

While the rate of melting and the rise of sea levels is difficult to predict with certainty, one thing that does seem certain is that they are going to melt, and the melting will accelerate in the coming years. After all, we keep hearing about reducing CO2, and have been for many years. But we are not even close to net-neutral (which won't stop the melting), much less at reducing the warming. It would appear that such efforts will never succeed based on all that has been said, and nothing having been done of any significance.

For the young person considering buying sea-shore property, one might consider getting a firm grasp on these sea level estimates going forward, considering worst-case scenarios with time. If they intend to leave the property to their children, these considerations are even more important.

Perhaps anyone finding themselves with such a difficult decision might consider a sea-cliff home instead. As long as the sea level is more than 225 feet below the cliff level, you and your children should be okay. (Assuming major storms are not in play for that location.) Clearly getting some course work in geography and related elevations of coastlines would be a good idea before dropping any cash for that sea-side property. One would not want their wonderful home submerged by the sea in their golden years, or perhaps in their children's years, depending on the melting rate in the coming years.

So be sure to plan ahead, and make well-educated estimates on where to buy. And remember that for some buyers in real estate, "location, location, location" might not mean the same thing anymore.....


(1) https://www.livescience.com/greenland-melt-point-of-no-return.html

(2) https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2940/greenlands-rapid-melt-will-mean-more-flooding/

(3) https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/global-sea-level/ice-melt

 

[Liam Lucas]

After all, we keep hearing about reducing CO2, and have been for many years. But we are not even close to net-neutral (which won't stop the melting), much less at reducing the warming. It would appear that such efforts will never succeed based on all that has been said, and nothing having been done of any significance.

So all this controversy and carbon trading, all the protests from AGW believers is just a waste of time, because nothing will change? The first sensible thing I have read, what a relief that everything from the AGW forum and from all the Marxist protestors but unbelievably also from NASA complaining about sea level changes is just plainly a HOAX!

 

[Chem721]

So all this controversy and carbon trading, all the protests from AGW believers is just a waste of time, because nothing will change?

It is an attempt to do something to reverse the disastrous course we are on, but people do not realize that a major reduction in CO2 is the only real solution.

There are not enough people empowered to do anything about it other than point out the future shock that the world is looking at without massive mitigation efforts. Actually the shock is on-going, there are just not enough people who really care.

 

[Liam Lucas]

It is an attempt to do something to reverse the disastrous course we are on, but people do not realize that a major reduction in CO2 is the only real solution.

There are not enough people empowered to do anything about it other than point out the future shock that the world is looking at without massive mitigation efforts. Actually the shock is on-going, there are just not enough people who really care.

What don't you understand about the quote? "But we are not even close to net-neutral (which won't stop the melting), much less at reducing the warming. It would appear that such efforts will never succeed based on all that has been said, and nothing having been done of any significance." It means even if we stopped producing CO2 it would not change anything! The success of the brain washing by the Marxists and Maoists is breathtaking. It just proves we must shut our Universities to stop the spreading of these dangerous falsehoods by the agents of anti manufacturing and employment!

 

[Chem721]

What don't you understand about the quote? "But we are not even close to net-neutral (which won't stop the melting), much less at reducing the warming. It would appear that such efforts will never succeed based on all that has been said, and nothing having been done of any significance." It means even if we stopped producing CO2 it would not change anything!

One cannot "understand" statements like : "It means even if we stopped producing CO2 it would not change anything!"

One can only point out that such proclamations are simply wrong, and easy to reject, based on all available evidence.

Such simple understandings are greatly appreciated, thank you.

The success of the brain washing by the Marxists and Maoists is breathtaking.

This is certainly interesting. Please provide a reference* where the Commies had anything to say about climate change, pollution, etc. which had ANY impact on the overwhelming global acceptance of the urgent need to limit emissions.

*(Not including current "communist" China (actually a fascist state), who is only brainwashing their own people. Those paying attention know that China and anything they push are not going to brainwash anyone of significance outside of China.)

 

[Liam Lucas]

One cannot "understand" statements like : "It means even if we stopped producing CO2 it would not change anything!"

One can only point out that such proclamations are simply wrong, and easy to reject, based on all available evidence.

Such simple understandings are greatly appreciated, thank you.




This is certainly interesting. Please provide a reference* where the Commies had anything to say about climate change, pollution, etc. which had ANY impact on the overwhelming global acceptance of the urgent need to limit emissions.

*(Not including current "communist" China (actually a fascist state), who is only brainwashing their own people. Those paying attention know that China and anything they push are not going to brainwash anyone of significance outside of China.)

The "Extinction Rebellion" movement was actually started by a self described Marxist, (COMMUNIST) named Roger Hallam. He and a co-conspirator, Gail Bradbrook were the starters of this rabble which world wide is causing disruption to cities around the world with their protest marches and civil disobedience, even during the Covid 19 lockdowns.
As far as China being fascist , why does the ruling party call themselves the Chinese Communist Party? I know for a fact that the Chinese ARE extending their influence throughout the Pacific region, especially the small islands like Samoa and Tahiti, using "grants" to build hospitals and other infrastructure, and expecting fishing rights access and berthing access for warships in return.
It is obvious the propaganda from this Anti Carbon lobby is totally out of control, with under educated millenials urged on by communist sympathisers in universities, to disrupt anything that may actually improve the livelihood of people who actually work and have the intelligence to work things out for themselves, instead of being indoctrinated by rabid "professors"!

 

[Chem721]

As far as China being fascist , why does the ruling party call themselves the Chinese Communist Party?

You gotta be kidding?!

"why does the ruling party call themselves the Chinese Communist Party?"

For the very same and very obvious reason those controlling Germany in the years 1933-1945 called themselves "National Socialists" (of the worker's party?!). (This form of "titles" is most commonly known as subterfuge.) They supported neither socialism or the workers. Those Germans, and Stalinist Russia, and China since Mao took over are/were the most Fascist regimes in history, but hardly lived up to their names. Yet another easy answer. You are very good for these.

Obviously the same reason North Korea call themselves the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

No one, repeat, no one anywhere with knowledge of repressive political regimes and their related subterfuge is going to accept North Korea as a Democracy or a Republic, and certainly NOT both!

The rest of your post looks like similar rhetoric, and likely just as questionable as your post on the Chinese Communist Party. It is communist in name only. Thanks for the entertainment!

 

[Liam Lucas]

You gotta be kidding?!

"why does the ruling party call themselves the Chinese Communist Party?"

For the very same and very obvious reason those controlling Germany in the years 1933-1945 called themselves "National Socialists" (of the worker's party?!). (This form of "titles" is most commonly known as subterfuge.) They supported neither socialism or the workers. Those Germans, and Stalinist Russia, and China since Mao took over are/were the most Fascist regimes in history, but hardly lived up to their names. Yet another easy answer. You are very good for these.

Obviously the same reason North Korea call themselves the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

No one, repeat, no one anywhere with knowledge of repressive political regimes and their related subterfuge is going to accept North Korea as a Democracy or a Republic, and certainly NOT both!

The rest of your post looks like similar rhetoric, and likely just as questionable as your post on the Chinese Communist Party. It is communist in name only. Thanks for the entertainment!

My congratulations to your "Influencers", they sure have done a good job of scrambling your brain! You are using all their stock in trade answers to make yourself look intelligent, well it doesn't work!

 

[Chem721]

My congratulations to your "Influencers",

My primary "influencer" was my adviser, who was himself the graduate of a Nobel prize winner at Johns Hopkins. He did indeed teach me many things that have stayed with me all my life. These thing are called knowledge,

It does not offend at all what you think about me, or anything else. You are what you are, and I am what I am. A double Popeye, one could say!