# Did I find the Feigenbaum constant (4.699) in depicting cycles as circles and then sub circles of the first cycle?

#### pittsburghjoe

Maybe the golden ratio (1.61803398875) gets mixed in somehow?
Does this lead to an explanation to 3.57 cycles being chaos?

#### TheobromaGuy2020

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Maybe the golden ratio (1.61803398875) gets mixed in somehow?
Does this lead to an explanation to 3.57 cycles being chaos?
What shapes do we get when using 1 to 1.5?

#### pittsburghjoe

Does chaos start at 3.57 because that is the circumference of the circle representing the cycle?

That circle is a snapshot/horizontal slice of a vertical/3d golden ratio. A cycle flows/advances on the path of the ratio. From the side it looks a like zig zag doing a downward funneled spiral. At any given time a snapshot can be taken, from the top that looks like a complete circle.

Something is happening to the flow between 3.57 and 3.83

I should update the circles in my first post, they need to be scaling in size per cycle.

#### pittsburghjoe

I think spacetime is doing whatever it is at that ratio. Spacetime is the number one suspect with anything involving our reality. OR it is region that superposition is allowed, in which case, spacetime is not involved.

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#### pittsburghjoe

Feignenbaum’s constant isn’t 1.61803398875 (golden radio) because the golden ratio is 3D, it is getting skewed/stretched to 4.669

#### pittsburghjoe

If spacetime is quadratic, does it mean a bifurcation diagram can describe it?
Can math or numbers be in superposition?
Does the fabric of spacetime have something to do with the Mandelbrot set?
Can Pi be used to take a top-down snapshot of a vertical/3D progressing golden ratio? Is this what time is?

#### pittsburghjoe

Would the speed of light be an even 300,000,000 if spacetime wasn't taxing the system to run its simulation? Does it take 207,542 cycles to run the fabric of spacetime?

#### Hayseed

The velocity of light is constant, but the duration of detection is different for each frequency. It takes more time to detect red, than blue. It takes more time to absorb red than blue.

One can transfer information quicker on blue light then red light. Because of detection time.

Emission duration is constant for all frequencies.

To this very day, no one understands light.

#### pittsburghjoe

Does Pi x Pi = a time cycle? Has anyone noticed the multiplying results bifurcate? Is there something to the result of ^17 being close to our speed of light? 282,844,563.5865327

#### pittsburghjoe

First digit for each instance Pi is multiplied by Pi:
9,3,9,3,9,3,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,1,6,1,6,1

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#### pittsburghjoe

9,3,9,3,9,3,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,
8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,
7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,
6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,1,6,1,6,1,....

#### sarajo

Too complicated for me . I saw a programme presented by Zachery Quinto (from Star Trek fame) In search of time travel & there was a part in it where people from Liverpool (UK) have experienced "Time Slips" one minute there in the "present day & next minute theyre in another era -just very briefly & then back to normal on a street called Bold St

I've been to Liverpool many a time (being from the UK) but dont live there & never been on this street - so next time I go there I might ty & find Bold St & see whether its true (I dont buy it myself -I think people have got an act of imagination)

#### pittsburghjoe

I think it takes 17 cycles of Pi to run the fabric of spacetime.

#### pittsburghjoe

9,3,9,3,9,3,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,
8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,
7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,
6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,1,6,1,6,1,6,1,
5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,
4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,
3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,9,3,9,3,9,3,9,
2,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,7,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,2,6,
1,6,1,6,1,6,1,6,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,5,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,4,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3,
9,3,9,3,9,3,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,9,2,
8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,8,2,

Do any of you understand how big of deal this is? Pi x Pi is at the root.

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#### Hayseed

I feel like the guy filming the caricature artist with the statue of liberty in the background.

I don't see it.

#### pittsburghjoe

Each time you multiply Pi it's like you are getting an answer from two separate pi objects. It seems to be going back and forth like a particle with two instances of decoherence in its path.

#### pittsburghjoe

I wonder if each digit represents an instruction set for the fabric of spacetime.

There are 350 digits before repeating.

If it is bifurcating, does it mean that pi x pi is naturally a quadratic map?

You know what else is naturally a quadratic map? The fabric of spacetime. Are they the same thing?

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#### Hayseed

Maybe the 2 pi's are perpendicular. Maybe one pi is rotating inside another pi.

#### pittsburghjoe

It seems math itself is making an exception for Pi ..it is almost treating it like it is alive.

#### pittsburghjoe

Chaos 3.57 is chaos because when multiplied in the same fashion as Pi is chaos in comparison! It is also why Pi starts off bifurcated ..3.14 is after 3.0

#### pittsburghjoe

Do bifurcation diagrams give us a map of how certain numbers will behave when multiplied by themselves?

A quadratic map is an x times an x ..it all makes sense now

I think the Mandelbrot set will tell us how complex/imaginary numbers multiply.

We are going to find out the Mandelbrot set is a virtual object that sits at the core of math.

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#### Sylas

Would the speed of light be an even 300,000,000 if spacetime wasn't taxing the system to run its simulation? Does it take 207,542 cycles to run the fabric of spacetime?
You are using a human construct like "300,000,000" to validate simulation theory? Wait a minute...not a human construct, but a measurement using the Metric system. You need to use the Merican system, then you find the universe got more juice.

#### pittsburghjoe

Yes, it was right of you to cherry pick something to complain about.

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