Biblical story of Jesus possibly explained by excavations in his hometown of Nazareth

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Interesting, the use of human manure as fertilizer was endorsed, besides the inhabitants in Sepphoris (today a clothes' trade mark: 'Sephora', they may love the Roman rule), by Vlad Lenin, in his book against Russian followers of Ernst Mach, 'Machists': 'Materialism and empirio-criticism', containig also many other scientific aberrations.
Young Red Guards used human manure this harmful way in the Mao's 'Cultural Revolution' days.
Human manure should never be used as fertilizer, because of the extremely high risk of transmitting many diseases.
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Live Science undermines itself with articles such as these. It needs to distance itself from religious proselytising. The Bible was written by paid scribes hundreds of years after Jesus was supposed to have lived to fuel a cult. Romans were meticulous record keepers and never mentioned someone called Jesus, so he certainly wasn't as famous and people in the U.S. make out today with countless of English-language 'interpretations' they call Bibles which are being quoted in this article.
 

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Live Science undermines itself with articles such as these. It needs to distance itself from religious proselytising. The Bible was written by paid scribes hundreds of years after Jesus was supposed to have lived to fuel a cult. Romans were meticulous record keepers and never mentioned someone called Jesus, so he certainly wasn't as famous and people in the U.S. make out today with countless of English-language 'interpretations' they call Bibles which are being quoted in this article.
Wrong! The 'Life of 12 Caesars', by Suetonio, dead AD 126, cites a police authority in the times of Tiberio chased jews out of Rome, 'because they started frequent quarrels because of a certain Cresto', Cresto is a latinized version of the Greek title 'Christus', meaning 'Anointed', in hebrew 'Messiah', but in the days of that Tiberio, Romans did not distinguish between jews and Christians.
What was made centuries after is the Bible version compiled by Ben-Asher, a converse to jewish faith, who worked on this in order that all jews in Diaspora had the same sacred texts. There are translations of Gospel to languages other than Greek and Latin, perhaps as early as 3d century AD. For sure texts differ; even today, you can hear in a Holy Mass the same Gospel by same Evangelist, same text, and what is read differs to such degree that you can even have contradictory interpretations.
An easy example is an OT text where a lover promises his beloved woman offering her porpoises' furs: porpoises, dolphins, have never been used in furriery, while in old times, there were seals in the Mediterranean, seals have a furrery use.
If you don't want to adhere to the Christ revelation, it's your decision, consequences are yours, but it has little sense supporting this in bibliography issues, these realms have little or no overlap. Blessings +
 
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There were a lot of cults at the time in Rome and the idea your Cresto was Jesus is at best a stab in the dark. Again, Live Science should be about science, not superstition.
 

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There were a lot of cults at the time in Rome and the idea your Cresto was Jesus is at best a stab in the dark. Again, Live Science should be about science, not superstition.
Hardly this kind of observation form a Roman policeman could come from nobody but about Jesus, your reaction is evidence that jews and associates act in a fíercy, visceral way confronted with the name Jesus, and not so much, or nearly nothing, in front of other names.
It's not my business.
In the lack of evidence pointing to another religious man, the most probable explanation for the comment in Suetonio is as stated: it was about Jesus, but there is also the jew-roman historian Flavio Josefo citing Jesus.
Sanhedrin line of propaganda is propaganda; whatever the intensity of your efforts, you won't change reality. Any personal interest in despising Jesus? For sure, He won't harm you, if you don't have a better alternative to offer, no one has, this type of comments are a bit arrogant and aggressive to those who endorse the Faith in free choice, and can even be considered mobbing, an attempt to subdue those who think different to you. Style, evidence, matters. Blessings +
 
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Live Science should be it, scientific. Not for biblical theories.
– Josephus Flavius did visit Jaffa village 1.5 km from today's Nazareth, but did not mention Nazareth at all.
– All imporant archaeological discoveries in Nazareth are not from 30 A.D., but after 70's A.D.
Etc, etc...
 

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You present your postulates with no more evidence that 'I said this'. Let's come back to your starting barefaced lie: the non-historicity of Jesus. You own comments discredit the factoid, if the type of evidence you want is filmed activity, a travle back in time, if you continue adhering to hexagramme, the symbol for Saturn, equal to Chronos, equal to Moloch, 'master of time' for Greeks and Rome, perhaps you'll get from it the technology for time travel. As now, you attack, but provide no support. End of thread. Blessings +
 
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Hardly this kind of observation form a Roman policeman could come from nobody but about Jesus, your reaction is evidence that jews and associates act in a fíercy, visceral way confronted with the name Jesus, and not so much, or nearly nothing, in front of other names.
It's not my business.
In the lack of evidence pointing to another religious man, the most probable explanation for the comment in Suetonio is as stated: it was about Jesus, but there is also the jew-roman historian Flavio Josefo citing Jesus.
Sanhedrin line of propaganda is propaganda; whatever the intensity of your efforts, you won't change reality. Any personal interest in despising Jesus? For sure, He won't harm you, if you don't have a better alternative to offer, no one has, this type of comments are a bit arrogant and aggressive to those who endorse the Faith in free choice, and can even be considered mobbing, an attempt to subdue those who think different to you. Style, evidence, matters. Blessings +
 
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Hardly this kind of observation form a Roman policeman could come from nobody but about Jesus, your reaction is evidence that jews and associates act in a fíercy, visceral way confronted with the name Jesus, and not so much, or nearly nothing, in front of other names.
It's not my business.
In the lack of evidence pointing to another religious man, the most probable explanation for the comment in Suetonio is as stated: it was about Jesus, but there is also the jew-roman historian Flavio Josefo citing Jesus.
Sanhedrin line of propaganda is propaganda; whatever the intensity of your efforts, you won't change reality. Any personal interest in despising Jesus? For sure, He won't harm you, if you don't have a better alternative to offer, no one has, this type of comments are a bit arrogant and aggressive to those who endorse the Faith in free choice, and can even be considered mobbing, an attempt to subdue those who think different to you. Style, evidence, matters. Blessings +
[/"your reaction is evidence that jews and associates act in a fíercy, visceral way confronted with the name Jesus "] . I am not Jewish, but you demonstrate your anti-semitism amply. This is the problem with religionists who are blind to science and evidence in defence of their faith and superstition.
 
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Interesting, the use of human manure as fertilizer was endorsed, besides the inhabitants in Sepphoris (today a clothes' trade mark: 'Sephora', they may love the Roman rule), by Vlad Lenin, in his book against Russian followers of Ernst Mach, 'Machists': 'Materialism and empirio-criticism', containig also many other scientific aberrations.
Young Red Guards used human manure this harmful way in the Mao's 'Cultural Revolution' days.
Human manure should never be used as fertilizer, because of the extremely high risk of transmitting many diseases.
All krazee, now and then! Blessings +
I can remember my brother-in-law, who was in the Navy in the 1950's, speaking of Japan where he said they used human waste as fertilizer. He said they collected it in what he called a 'honey pot' & then spread it in their gardens. Japanese are known to be wonderful gardeners & can really make things grow beautifully. Makes one wonder if it could be safely used somehow. ....... On 2nd thought, ....... no, don't think so.
 
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Abstract

The article indicates a misnomer by its own title, “Biblical story of Jesus”. Jesus is an abstract invention by the Roman Catholic church in its earliest beginnings gaining ground in the late 1st century AD. Jesus was a common name during this time. The only recorded instance of the name Jesus shows up in the annuals of the manuscript, “The Antiquities of the Jews”. This name shows up in one sentence where this man was crucified. Nothing more is said about why he was crucified.

Jesus becoming a god after death would have been front page news on the New York times. It is not there in any other ancient manuscript.

All Christianity did was take the ideology of the thought that the afterlife was only for the rich and famous and parlayed it to the common person. To give him a feel-good theology about the afterlife. The same census we see throughout modern cultures were certain segments are now considered hero’s.

The ideology that the first-born son inherits the Fathers kingdom had been around since the ancient Sumerians 3200 BC coursed its way through the ancient empires to land on the riverbanks of Rome.

The early Christians rewrote ancient manuscripts to indicate that it was the second born that inherits the Fathers kingdom. That a man when he died would become a god. This is abstract thinking and it was easy to convince the populace at the time of such things because society was in all aspects was illiterate only the kings and people of wealth had access to higher levels of education. The lands surrounding the Mediterranean Sea was washed in mysticism spanning thousands of years.

There is an old axiom, “Lead the cattle into the barn and feed them what they want to hear”. Let them eat the fowl of the air”.

As far as a historical viewpoint it is interesting to note the difference of thought between two cities separated by only a couple of miles.

Historical significance of ancient Jewish history like looking through a windowpane the rise and fall of a micro empire when abstract thinking of religion becomes paramount in the social stratification of a society. Laws of Entropy , thoughts , all have a singularity then overtime they fall into chaos and randomness.
 
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