12 Coronavirus myths busted by science

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Myth: You're waaaay less likely to get this than the flu

Not necessarily. "

I disagree with the way this is said. At least in most places, you ARE way more likely to get the flu. Although the coronavirus has a higher R0, it is not circulating widely in the United States and most countries. And not only is the flu potentially deadly, illness can last a very long time and cause disability and interruption of your life/career. So people should be taking the flu seriously and get a flu shot. Especially since it could be devastating to get both viruses at the same time.
This did not age well. For the record, the USA is on schedule exactly according to the doubling of cases every 4 days and this means you will have 100 million by May...and 200 million about 4 days later. Also the actual mortality rate (calculated using the deaths and recoveries, and ignoring the infected number which is not really knowable and definitely not accurate. The use of the standing infected rate and deaths from any moment is a trick to deceive people. This has a 14 day mean incubation time so you need to take the infected numbers from 14 days previously. Or better as I did, the recoveries and deaths. The end product as such. This gives the biggest sample and longest time. Worldwide it is between 15 and 20%. The USA has been averaging 37% for the last few weeks I have been calculating it.

Yes, they are trying to keep panic down by lowballing the mortality. Even though mortality is not the scariest thing about this, not even when it is as seems about 20%. The contagiousness which you seem to have ignored in this answer is the problem along with the need for medical intervention to keep the death toll at the level it is. It is perfectly designed to overwhelm the health systems of any nation. The only solution is early isolation as China did and even then it was only once they started to isolate those who tested positive and had contact with those who tested positive that they began to bring it down. So given they're trying to avoid panic at this level and yet clearly seeking a degree of panic why? Easy if you ever herded sheep. You need to panic the sheep enough to get them to go where you want...but too much to scatter them which loses control. We're being herded.
 
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To correct you a dog has tested positive in the last week of one of the infecteds owners. So you might want to correct that. Misinformation is bad.
The dog tested weak positive. It was in close proximity to the infected owner. A pot plant in close contact with an infected person would test weak positive.
 
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To correct you a dog has tested positive in the last week of one of the infecteds owners. So you might want to correct that. Misinformation is bad.
The article says: ”Previous research has found that coronaviruses don't survive long on objects such as letters and packages.”

But viruses, according to many scholarly definitions, are non-living organisms that replicate inside living cells. A non-living organism can’t be killed., though they can be stopped from replicating. That’s part of the problem with viruses and why the diseases they cause can’t easily be treated.. It’s a completey different process from killing a bacterial infection. Bacteria are living organisms that can be killed.. As example, tuberculosis is caused by a bacteria. Small pox, measles, mumps, chicken pox, herpes, AIDS, and shingles are some diseases that are caused by [non-living] viruses. Viral diseases are difficult or impossible to treat effectively. They can be prevented, however, by a vaccine.

Viruses are not made out of cells, they can't keep themselves in a stable state, they don't grow, and they can't make their own energy. Even though they definitely replicate and adapt to their environment, viruses are more like androids than real living organisms.”

It is just one theory. Actually viruses are seen as living things by most microbiologists and all terminology around them reflects this. Just not living the way we normally define it. The fact they need a host to replicate does not eliminate them from contention as living. They most certainly are not mineral or chemicals only. I'd say the presence of RNA/DNA defines life myself, even if the only thing is a strand of DNA/RNA. It has everything needed to change and replicate once it lodges in a suitable host. It is something of a parasite. Both more and less.
 
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This does make pretty clear the assertion there is no evidence it is bio-engineered rather daft. So does the fact many microbiologists and pathologists are in no doubt about the fact that it is. Merely asserting there is "NO EVIDENCE" is itself rather a strong implication the list is misdirection.

 
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Regarding #2 "
Myth: You're waaaay less likely to get this than the flu

Not necessarily. "

I disagree with the way this is said. At least in most places, you ARE way more likely to get the flu. Although the coronavirus has a higher R0, it is not circulating widely in the United States and most countries. And not only is the flu potentially deadly, illness can last a very long time and cause disability and interruption of your life/career. So people should be taking the flu seriously and get a flu shot. Especially since it could be devastating to get both viruses at the same time.
I know somebody who has just recovered from the CV-19 virus and NOTHING she experienced resembles the flu. I have read other reports from people who have survived it and their accounts also do not resemble the flu. The descriptions are quite different from anything I ever heard about flu.

I had a bout of something last winter myself and quite a few did not just here but other places too I have since heard. I'd not had any viral or bacterial infection in over 36 years until then. This thing came on so fast and suddenly and the effects were so debilitating that flu did not come to mind for me at the time either. The coughing was vicious and came out of nowhere and it left me exhausted after about 10 hours straight of it. Over the next 2 weeks, I was reduced to a wreck and was barely able to get myself to a doctor. By then I had pneumonia and was nearly dead. After looking at reports from some with SARS behind them I suspect it was a SARS virus also. No doubt undergone some mutations in the time but nothing else seemed likely.
 
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If this report is correct, then why is there under 3,00 deaths from SARS2 and over 79,000 from flu world wide figures?
The infection RO is still holding at 2.2 that means around 1 - 4 people can be infected from each person with the virus.
The main reason for all this hype and news about SARS 2 is, it has an incubation period of up to 14 days, where the flu shows within 24 hours.
Why no "Warnings" about the way the flu has killed and infected many more people that this virus?
Even with a vaccine for flu, no vaccine for SARS 2 Yet, as testing has only just started earlier this week?
This has not aged well I suggest but sadly there are people still asking this question all over. The answer is so simple it astounds me anyone ever asked it at all. the answer is TIME. Flu is ubiquitous. CV-19 is on its maiden tour of the planet. It has yet to reach all corners and it has a 14-day mean incubation period. This means you only have to wait a little while before it will catch up and given its contagiousness which is at the outer edge of extreme it will easily overhaul any flu virus. I was aware it must be pretty seriously contagious when we began hearing of so many infected health care workers. They would presumably be wearing serious protection, especially when dealing with a new pathogen. Yet clearly it was not stopping this thing.
 
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How about this from https://microbiologysociety.org/publication/past-issues/what-is-life/article/are-viruses-alive-what-is-life.html

“No, viruses are not alive.”

or this from http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/:

“Viruses are not living things. Viruses are complicated assemblies of molecules, including proteins, nucleic acids, lipids, and carbohydrates, but on their own they can do nothing until they enter a living cell. Without cells, viruses would not be able to multiply. Therefore, viruses are not living things.”
Not the same thing obviously but many parasitic worms cannot reproduce themselves without a host either. This does not define life. I'd suggest the presence of RNA/DNA does. Even if that is all it is, this is the stuff of life.
 
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But viruses, according to many scholarly definitions, are non-living organisms that replicate inside living cells. A non-living organism can’t be killed., though they can be stopped from replicating. That’s part of the problem with viruses and why the diseases they cause can’t easily be treated.. It’s a completey different process from killing a bacterial infection. Bacteria are living organisms that can be killed.. As example, tuberculosis is caused by a bacteria. Small pox, measles, mumps, chicken pox, herpes, AIDS, and shingles are some diseases that are caused by [non-living] viruses. Viral diseases are difficult or impossible to treat effectively. They can be prevented, however, by a vaccine.
This is a case where biologists are incorrect. The main criterion for a living organism ought to be that it shows an autonomous purposeful behavior. Since orthodox science rules out teleology from the start, it can't accurately distinguish living organisms from non-living entities. But the behavior of viruses only makes sense if they're regarded as living organisms. They are parasitic, true, but they do reproduce after their own fashion. For that matter, human beings are not self reproducing but required a cooperate effort. All of which just points up one of the great shortcomings of contemporary science....
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I'd like to add a minor point to the last bit. To my mind the greatest shortcoming of science today is the assumption by the public at large and not a few 'scientists' that it is a doctrine, rather than a process. Just as knowledge is always evolving, scientific understanding is too. That which we "KNOW" for a fact today is often disproved once and for all tomorrow. What we deduce from day to day depends on what we know and in absence of what we do not know, nothing much can be proved, just supported with evidence. Things can of course be disproved. The certainty among the public that if a scientist says a thing it is true is matched by the assumption by some scientists that they are infallible.
 
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Myth: The virus was probably made in a lab
No evidence suggests that the virus is man-made.

EXCEPT the Chinees national x 2 who have testified that yes in fact this was man-made in Wuhan and deliberately released into the wild by the ChiComs
 
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Vaccines prevent deaths, they don't cause them! We need medicine to help those with severe cases. Also, just because one baby got better without medicine we can't declare that there is no need for one.
I have had covid in dec 2019, before anyone heard that word. I was quite ill. The worst FLU that I ever had. I’m also have an immunodeficiency. I have rheumatoid arthritis and it is treated by a immunosuppressant. That being said it is a seasonal virus nastier then most we have seen but it is the flu. It has been used to terrify the world and most of the threat is over stated. Most people a vast majority would not have a problem with this bug. The number have been exaggerated tremendously to scare and control population. It has been the tool of the left , a tool of doom and gloom. The answer is not to hide in your basement. With a masks on. This mask does little to stop this thing. It is very small and will pass through a fabric with no trouble. Now I have not gotten sick again now 10 months later. I have worn a mask when required but if not required I don’t. What came first the virus or the egg? The virus has been here forever. It will continue to mutate and will never be completely defeated. Much of this is political. If it was not an election coming it would not be an issue. Don’t believe the numbers posted they are greatly exaggerated. They are inflated 4 to 5 fold!!!! Keep smiling, come out of the basement, and live this thing life. Enjoy 😊
 

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This did not age well. For the record, the USA is on schedule exactly according to the doubling of cases every 4 days and this means you will have 100 million by May...and 200 million about 4 days later. Also the actual mortality rate (calculated using the deaths and recoveries, and ignoring the infected number which is not really knowable and definitely not accurate. The use of the standing infected rate and deaths from any moment is a trick to deceive people. This has a 14 day mean incubation time so you need to take the infected numbers from 14 days previously. Or better as I did, the recoveries and deaths. The end product as such. This gives the biggest sample and longest time. Worldwide it is between 15 and 20%. The USA has been averaging 37% for the last few weeks I have been calculating it.

Yes, they are trying to keep panic down by lowballing the mortality. Even though mortality is not the scariest thing about this, not even when it is as seems about 20%. The contagiousness which you seem to have ignored in this answer is the problem along with the need for medical intervention to keep the death toll at the level it is. It is perfectly designed to overwhelm the health systems of any nation. The only solution is early isolation as China did and even then it was only once they started to isolate those who tested positive and had contact with those who tested positive that they began to bring it down. So given they're trying to avoid panic at this level and yet clearly seeking a degree of panic why? Easy if you ever herded sheep. You need to panic the sheep enough to get them to go where you want...but too much to scatter them which loses control. We're being herded.
I had it, no biggie
 
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This author is so out of Left field (likely due to brainwashing in Journalism school) will only take on a couple points. I am a risk control consultant with degrees in Risk Management and Business from Univ of Mn. CV is clearly now signficantly less dangerous than the Flu with CDC finally coming clean on their falsifying mortality (and even infection rates). CV is 80% LESS dangerous than last years Flu season. based on confirmed YTD deaths from COVID only, without co-morbidities which are the most likely cause of death, or underlying cause of death (UCOD) definitions which they make up as they go.

Secondly, we know now that masks do not work for a variety of reasons. A recent study indicated that the vast majority of people that were infected with CV wore masks religiously. Still, no matter as these people largely had zero symptoms - which is unheard of for virtually all other communicable diseases, including flu. Whether masks cause breathing problems is academic, they don't work for the vast majority regardless. I also take issue that wearing masks do not CAUSE health problems. It is quite possible than in the recent mask study that the people wearing masks daily, on the streets, going to bed at night etc, are the most likely to get sick because they are inhaling viruses, germs and bacteria in the masks that human beings have safely expelled for years.

More here: https://worldyturnings.blog/2020/10/07/plandemic-becomes-clear/
 
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I have had covid in dec 2019, before anyone heard that word. I was quite ill. The worst FLU that I ever had. I’m also have an immunodeficiency. I have rheumatoid arthritis and it is treated by a immunosuppressant. That being said it is a seasonal virus nastier then most we have seen but it is the flu. It has been used to terrify the world and most of the threat is over stated. Most people a vast majority would not have a problem with this bug. The number have been exaggerated tremendously to scare and control population. It has been the tool of the left , a tool of doom and gloom. The answer is not to hide in your basement. With a masks on. This mask does little to stop this thing. It is very small and will pass through a fabric with no trouble. Now I have not gotten sick again now 10 months later. I have worn a mask when required but if not required I don’t. What came first the virus or the egg? The virus has been here forever. It will continue to mutate and will never be completely defeated. Much of this is political. If it was not an election coming it would not be an issue. Don’t believe the numbers posted they are greatly exaggerated. They are inflated 4 to 5 fold!!!! Keep smiling, come out of the basement, and live this thing life. Enjoy 😊
Not very overstated when there's 40 million people out there infected. This cannot be treated as a political thing when people are in hospitals dying. This is no "tool of the left", and politicizing something that kills people won't help us stop COVID.
 

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