- Nov 11, 2019
If you are so concerned about future generations then act to get rid of trump.he is the biggest hold back to gaining world agreements on reducing global warming.At the risk of being labeled a “denier,” I’ll make this comment, and I hope my fellow earthlings will understand that as a fellow earthling, who must live in the same environment as the rest of us, I AM concerned about keeping the earth a livable place for my great-grandchildren to the umpteenth generation.
That said, I’m also VERY concerned with making sure that the aforementioned offspring maintain the same LIBERTY as was bequeathed them by the brilliant Founders of this nation (USA), which means that I’m highly skeptical of any environmental “solutions” that seem far too simplistic, contrived, and prone to corruption by greedy, self-serving individuals in the government. To wit: the so-called “carbon tax.”
Now, before I go on, I will ask my fellow Earth denizens to be, above all things, good scientists who practice skepticism (by which I do NOT mean “scorn” or “ridicule,” but the real meaning of the term) as ideas for various “solutions” arise; and I’ll go one step further... I’ll ask you to deeply consider not only the merits of the potential solutions, but also the potential political aspirations behind the ideas advanced– regardless of who offers them, or from whence they seem to come.
Let me explain:
Consider this “carbon-tax” idea... Please ask yourselves as scientists if you had any concerns initially about this “solution,” or if you were OK with it from a scientific standpoint (for now, let’s presume you agreed with the idea’s intent, sufficient to be willing to ‘give it a try’). If you did NOT, that’s OK— we’ll deal with that in a moment.
The reason I present this in this way, is that when the whole “climate change” issue became a hot-button political topic, there was immediate pressure to “accept” the concept, with religious fervor— and anyone who expressed skepticism at first, found themselves the literal targets of a political and professional Inquisition.
The “science was SETTLED,” and there was to be NO insubordination from the scientific community, or the penalty was swift, certain excommunication— from their community of peers, in many cases also from their JOBS, and in ALL cases, from any further FUNDING for research.
It was profoundly disturbing to me to see the manner in which the “scientific” community responded to the phenomenon, how rabidly they ‘defended’ it, and how willing they were to instantly justify the persecution of their peers in the university setting, for failing to be “early adopters,” (to borrow a marketing term).
From my perspective, the phenomenon “blew up” here in the US, near the end of Obama’s first term in office. It had apparently been an issue of importance in European universities for some time prior to that, but was brought to Americans by Obama’s demand that Congress immediately pass the “carbon-tax” law. “IMMEDIATELY!.. Right NOW!!”
But wait, shouldn’t we examine the prob— “NO! No TIME! Must be passed NOW!!”—lem, and have Congress debate the— “NO!! Gotta PASS IT FIRST!! No TIME! The sky is FALLING!!”— possible consequences to our economy, and more important, our FR—“NO!! NOTHING is more important than PASSING THE LAW NOW!!!”—EEDOM?!?
Needless to say, the authoritarian urgency under which it was DEMANDED that we comply with the carbon tax (right on the heels of Obamacare, no less) caused no shortage of pushback.
Still, it was surprising and concerning that so many people just BOUGHT-IN with ZERO argument— but I digress.
I wasn’t alone in immediately suspecting something was “off,” but once I learned more, I recognized right away that the carbon-tax was a TOTAL SCAM.
So did a lot of other people.
But that was NOT ALLOWED. University professors (tenured, no less) lost their jobs for suggesting there wasn’t enough evidence to claim anthropogenic cause of climate change– graduate students lost funding, and state attorneys general actually threatened “deniers” with JAIL!
This all really happened. No joke.
Think about it. There was TREMENDOUS pressure to pass a law (again, without even reading it, just like the ACA) without any debate, which would give the federal government control over how Americans use energy, and how MUCH we could use.
The tax would be collected by the Feds, and doled out to those who came up with the very best “green energy” ideas— all while “solving” the excess atmospheric CO2 “problem” by giving government power to LIMIT how much energy individual Americans consume.
Seriously?!? Americans actually BOUGHT this line of garbage— because unfortunately most Americans have no idea how willing are the people they elected, to waste our money– or to use it to line their own bank accounts– or to subject them to tyranny.
Most people who’ve been adults for more than a couple of years recognize that the LEAST efficient way to get ANYTHING done is to let the federal government do it.
What a LOT of people didn’t notice, is that the carbon tax was never intended to be a solution to “climate change.” ...Nope. Not at all.
Makes you wonder... Did the AG’s who threatened to put people in jail for “denying” climate change actually BELIEVE in man-made climate change? Or were they just the ‘ram rods’ to get it done?
The carbon tax is about CONTROL, not about the environment.
Once established, and accepted by citizens as just a “cost of doing business,” to save the environment, people would hardly complain about the tax. Then, as time goes on, they’d barely make a peep when government starts getting specific in the way it charges people for their “carbon output.”
How many working-class folk would question when they have to start paying more, because the government says their “carbon-footprint” had increased? They just PAY it, right?
Until they begin to notice that just like the “social-credit” system in China, only the people who don’t kiss the asses of bureaucrats get their fees increased— or they find out that some ass-kissers use TWICE as much fossil fuel and put out twice the CO2, but pay only a FRACTION of what YOU are forced to pay– because you’re a skeptic...
When you try to rebel, they just crank up your “carbon tax.” If you discover the truth and start speaking up, they just revoke your “carbon points,” and make life so difficult and miserable that you finally either shut up and go along with the program, or you starve to death. (You think you’re gonna get a straight answer about how your footprint is calculated? HAA!!)
Why would they do this?... POWER.
The whole point is to CONTROL you, and the carbon tax becomes the method by which they inflict economic pain upon you, if you don’t comply with what they expect of you.
YES, there ARE people who want to control the world, and keep the best of what the world has to offer for themselves, and their children... YOU?! You can go pound sand!
Oh, and the OTHER purpose for the carbon tax, besides controlling the behavior of you peons?... It’s to make CERTAIN there can never be another ‘Donald J. Trump’— they will work quickly to make it clear that THEY are the “Ruling Class,” and that YOU are the peon. They can’t tolerate any upstarts from the working-class accruing enough wealth to become a political challenger to those who control the carbon-tax receipts (because you peons might find out that most of it goes to the “party leaders” of the Ruling Class, for luxurious estates and rich, lavish lifestyles— they can’t have that, because it would upset the order of things).
Disbelieve this scenario at the peril of your liberty, and that of your future generations.
That plan was WELL under way, and has been interrupted ONLY by a kind, gracious God, a handful of real, modern-day Patriots, and the man who was miraculously elected President in 2016, against ALL odds.
If Hillary had won, their plan would’ve advanced right under our noses, and none of us would have known until it was too late to stop the momentum.
Why do you think he has been under such CONSTANT, unrelenting attack by the Deep State, by European politicians, and by the huge corporate DNC-affiliated media??
He’s disrupting their 20-year plan (thank heaven), and God willing, he’ll be allowed to finish his work.
You can disbelieve me, or think I’m a crackpot, and I don’t care. I have no interest in forcing you to see my point of view, or to know what I know...
Just as long as you folks studying the climate keep one eye on the politicians, who would gladly let you be the suckers who give them control of the whole economy, under the LIE of “saving the environment.”
The BEST WAY to solve any REAL issues of the climate is to allow the free market, and the brilliant minds of 330 million Americans to find the most efficient, least expensive ways to do it— without having to impose tyranny on a single soul, or enslaving the future generations of America.
This time we dodged the bullet by the grace of God... we had better learn the lesson of what “eternal vigilance” means, because next time we might not be so lucky.
Yeah, well while you're screaming about who's in control, guess what? The world is dying.At the risk of being labeled a “denier,” I’ll make this comment, and I hope my fellow earthlings will understand that as a fellow earthling, who must live in the same environment as the rest of us, I AM concerned about keepin... [blah blah blah] YES, there ARE people who want to control the world, and keep the best of what the world has to offer for themselves, and their children... YOU?! You can go pound sand!
The first part of the comment I think was dead-on; it is a testament of the kind of Simian behavior I've long seen pervading the field; and is one of many reasons why I think that the job of the scientist (including the AI researcher) needs to be fully automated with the human element completely removed from the picture ... along with the rest of the STEM sector.At the risk of being labeled a “denier,” I’ll make this comment, and I hope my fellow earthlings will understand that as a fellow earthling, who must live in the same environment as the rest of us, I AM concerned about keeping the earth a livable place for my great-grandchildren to the umpteenth generation.
I'm just going to reply to one part of your post. "Most all of the solar companies from the last 20 years? Bankrupt, because they couldn't compete against oil which holds a huge corner on the market. " The reality is that everyday, all over this planet, it is literally raining energy. Yet while buckets of it fall every minute, we, as in solar energy companies you speak of, are out there with tea spoons. The efficiency of solar technology compared to it's cost is what is killing it. I've looked several times over the years, and between initial cost and upkeep and repairs solar would cost anywhere from 2 to 4 times as much as staying on the grid. People forget, the sun does not shine everyday all day long. That is when BATTERY technology, which is slowly improving kicks in. Yet it too is very inefficient. In the meantime, reality prevails and wishful and delusional thinking fails.Yeah, well while you're screaming about who's in control, guess what? The world is dying.
Look, last I checked the solutions proposed to fix global warming are mostly coming from the commercial sector, not some communist dictatorship, and yes the brightest and best minds are working on it, and here's the thing: NONE OF THEM MAKE MONEY - Most all of the solar companies from the last 20 years? Bankrupt, because they couldn't compete against oil which holds a huge corner on the market. You know what does make money? Oil. Lots of it ... it makes lots of money. More than anything. The one downside of capitalism ... the goal is to make money at the expense of all else ... including the planet, and it's an unstoppable train.
Yeah, oil ... they industry responsible for this mess. They're not going to clean it up. They don't care, and their protestations to the contrary sound just like your own.
But solar ... efficiencies doubled and costs cut by 90% ... couldn't be done without subsidies necessary to develop the technology. We'd still be looking at 8% efficiencies costing $10/watt. Now it's 16% on average, costing $1/watt. Before subsidies.
But there's the other thing that REALLY renders your argument moot ("they want to control the world"): The last time I checked Democrats, Greens, Tree Huggers, Conservationists, your favorite person to hate-on ... NONE of those people have exclusive rights ... or have really any premium stock options, that you can't invest in yourself. None of them. Nobody has a corner on this market and has locked you out. NOBODY.
You and your like-minded skeptics have just as much capability to go buy stock in the most earth-saving technology as any of them. Yes, free market ... which is what completely destroys your argument that they have some kind of power against which you are powerless. You can buy stock in 100 different companies that are working on solving this problem (FYI ... Exxon is even working on it, so go crazy and buy all the stocks you can if you think they're in pole position. But I would recommend buying a more pure play stock).
So your argument that this is a power-play by the worlds elite falls flat when anyone, including you, can start to invest in those same companies. If you really want to heal the world, put your money where your mouth is, or you're just running your mouth and frankly ... in 100 years your misguided rant about how you're somehow excluded from being part of the solution will look like exactly what it is: A partisan pitch, which by the way I've never understood ... conservatives (which I am, incidentally) should be working on conserving what we've got.
Actually...Throughout history we have faced the 'opinions' of those who huff and puff about this and that. Once the earth was declared flat by science (they were wrong obviously). Currently there are those screaming about 'climate change' and how man is causing it (again wrong) when the earth has been in a constant state of 'climate change' since its inception. The earth evolves in a dynamic state as geologist and geographers and meteorologists all understand, yet we have this author (a woman) clamoring about 'climate change' spreading fear, pretending its some new phenomenon and that man is responsible -- NOT HARDLY. We have a major problem with people on this planet who simply lack the 'bigger picture' concept of everything and spout off about subjects they don't really understand at all (much like the when the earth was 'said' to be flat) taking a few facts and then declaring, "this particular event is happening". The senator Al Gore was a major contributor to this nightmare of declarations 20 years ago as part of his political agenda proclaiming 'global warming' and 'climate change' as dastardly, man-made catastrophes. As most of us already know, weather professionals can't forecast weather accurately beyond 2-3 days while truly understanding little beyond the last 50 years. So what do we have? Theories, hypotheticals, and possibilities - no realities, no truths....and yet a woman 'Kimberly Hickok' writing articles in 2020 again claiming the 'world is flat'. One truth can be derived from all of this - a MAN will uncover the facts and understand the bigger picture - not a woman, as a man is in tune with GOD Almighty, an entity who does KNOW these things, while a woman does not have this connection, and will never understand the truths in life, but they will say and do things to ruin, mislead, and misguide everyone as the lesson in the Garden of Eden taught everyone, and as we see on a daily basis. As for one truth about earth? Earth will take care of herself, and man has little chance. Be wary of these naive articles by the likes of Hickok and many others - common sense dictate that they don't really know, and we won't know for a long, long time.
Orange man bad. A carbon tax or attacking oil is not a solution. It's like shooting the horses that your still riding. The U.S. and western civilization is under attack. The climate change weather real or not is just another way to attack us. World agreements is not a solution.If you are so concerned about future generations then act to get rid of trump.he is the biggest hold back to gaining world agreements on reducing global warming.
Why do you think so?Orange man bad. A carbon tax or attacking oil is not a solution. It's like shooting the horses that your still riding. The U.S. and western civilization is under attack. The climate change weather real or not is just another way to attack us. World agreements is not a solution.
The climate is changing far less now that it did from 20000 years ago to 10000 years ago. No cars planes or Trump was involvedIf you are so concerned about future generations then act to get rid of trump.he is the biggest hold back to gaining world agreements on reducing global warming.
LOL, if this were 20000 years ago and the glaciers that covered half of North America began melting you would say the same thing. All climate change is natural and normal.Why is it that behind so many (I want to say all) deniers is a pious belief in god? THIS is the source of the biggest threat to life on earth, which depends on a habitable climate, which relies on SCIENCE to keep it on track, as does every other bit of infrastructure that allows the world to function. Religion feels humiliated by science and always presents a defiant, combative posture; like there's this bone to pick or a shoulder with a chip welded to it. Always something to prove, whereas science is largely indifferent because they occupy different habitats. How many times have you seen an octopus fight a squirrel? Religion's influence over people no longer serves a purpose, other than to soothe the anxiety over death. But at what cost? "The streets will flow with the blood of non-believers!"
SCIENCE FLIES PEOPLE TO THE MOON. RELIGION FLIES PEOPLE INTO BUILDINGS!
But from 20000 to 10000 years ago 900 miles of north south glaciation melted. LOL now a few inches melt a year and clowns are screaming that the Earth is ending. Reality is not with you20,000 years ago the inhabitants didn't have the means to really fork shirt up. Now we do. Science tells us when we're veering off track and guides us back to a sustainable path.
The current warming trend began 20000 years ago and it began as a natural and normal climate oscillation and it is still a natural and normal climate oscillation. Furthermore the millions of years prior when it was rapidly cooling forming glaciation that covered half the world was also part of a natural and normal climate oscillation, and there is nothing that whacky climate scientist can do to change the past.If you had a good argument, you wouldn't need to resort to name calling and snide little digs. Chances are I can safely dismiss the other words you used, and I'm certainly not going take the bait and engage with what appears to be an arbitrary string of words and numbers. I mean, really, you took the position that, "All climate change is natural and normal." Take the last word if you want, but I doubt it will be enough to provoke a response.